Anyone interested in these before i post on ebay tomorrow night. Both working by electrics and manual winder. One better condition than the other but both function and could be stripped down and refurbed. What I can see one connection on the right one has rusted out so would need fixing but they would both benifit from a strip down and refurb to have as a spare or replacement. Probably a bit fragile to deliver but could be done or collect from Watford.
